Author Topic: WD TV Live Plus for a firmware update!?!?!  (Read 31826 times)

June 09, 2010, 08:32:45 AM
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Flexuor

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Netflix is a non-issue for me

DVD menus however, is high on my wish list.

The beauty of the WD TV Live is that it doesn't even know what DRM is.

June 09, 2010, 08:32:50 AM
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Additional hardware and hardware provisioning was required to support premium protected content.

-ScottWD
If that really is true, then WD should offer some type of upgrade to current customers.  I've seen people mention that this is no different than anyone who bought an iPhone 3 weeks ago, but it is different.  Apple releases new devices every year on a pretty firm schedule.  They also announced the newest firmware over a month ago.  WDTV users have been patiently waiting for new firmware and instead we find out you have been working on a new device instead.  Had this been announced earlier, the situation may be different.  Instead the device was just magically released without any heads up.

Furthermore, you guys put out some BS press release at the beginning of May championing a new Windows 7 Play to feature that had been available in a firmware release from March.  It's now obvious that press release was obviously put out to spur some sales to clear inventory for this device.

http://gizmodo.com/5533233/windows-7-now-supported-by-western-digitals-tv-live-hd

If WD is going to support customers like this, then they can go to hell.

June 09, 2010, 08:53:16 AM
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I think I will hold out for the upcoming WDTV 3D HD Live Pro Plus model. $350 for Christmas Time!

Dave...


June 09, 2010, 08:53:34 AM
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BTW: WD TV Live will have a product update.   I am packaging the update now.

-ScottWD

June 09, 2010, 08:54:56 AM
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-ScottWD
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Additional hardware and hardware provisioning was required to support premium protected content.

-ScottWD
If that really is true, then WD should offer some type of upgrade to current customers.  I've seen people mention that this is no different than anyone who bought an iPhone 3 weeks ago, but it is different.  Apple releases new devices every year on a pretty firm schedule.  They also announced the newest firmware over a month ago.  WDTV users have been patiently waiting for new firmware and instead we find out you have been working on a new device instead.  Had this been announced earlier, the situation may be different.  Instead the device was just magically released without any heads up.

Furthermore, you guys put out some BS press release at the beginning of May championing a new Windows 7 Play to feature that had been available in a firmware release from March.  It's now obvious that press release was obviously put out to spur some sales to clear inventory for this device.

http://gizmodo.com/5533233/windows-7-now-supported-by-western-digitals-tv-live-hd

If WD is going to support customers like this, then they can go to hell.

If WD would have released a press release 2 months ago, that a new model with netflix was coming and you had bought it the day JUST before that press release came out, would you be angry too ? Or should they've sent out a press release that a press release was coming that would annouce a new model ? :)



BTW: WD TV Live will have a product update.   I am packaging the update now.

Awesome, thanks Scott !

June 09, 2010, 08:57:33 AM
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Additional hardware and hardware provisioning was required to support premium protected content.

I call BS on this.  With 128mb of Ram and 500mhz processor, WDTV Live is roughly comparable to a Wii (730 mhz, 88 mb shared ram), which has netflix, and a Motorola Droid 1 (500mhz, 256mb ram), which is getting netflix streaming on the next android update (2.2).  Neither box needed "additional hardware provisioning" to support premium protected content.

The reality is: WD made an executive decision to not support the older hardware with this new feature.  It could have been coded in, but that would have required the firmware to actually be optimized (you know, to work).  Are ram requirements the problem?  Here's a solution: have it swap to attached storage for the stream.

The physical requirements are relatively easy to overcome.  The hard part was convincing the suits to support their old hardware.  That is where this project failed, on the bureaucratic side, not the technical.

WD should be ashamed.

June 09, 2010, 09:02:20 AM
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I call BS on this.  With 128mb of Ram and 500mhz processor, WDTV Live is roughly comparable to a Wii (730 mhz, 88 mb shared ram), which has netflix, and a Motorola Droid 1 (500mhz, 256mb ram), which is getting netflix streaming on the next android update (2.2).  Neither box needed "additional hardware provisioning" to support premium protected content.
Yeah, very good point, the wii contains exactly the same hardware as your mediaplayer.lol.

If Scott would be lying (and really, I don't believe he is), then the truth will be out there in notime.

June 09, 2010, 09:10:59 AM
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BTW: WD TV Live will have a product update.   I am packaging the update now.

-ScottWD

Will it include the much wanted Mongolian subtitles? ;)
If you think there is something wrong with your WD device contact them and then act upon that: Either wait or move on - don't whine here - this is not WD's board. If you have a problem, start a thread and ask - perhaps someone knows the answer.

June 09, 2010, 09:14:52 AM
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I don't care about Netflix and DVD menus but,if access to these features won't be available for the Live, I agree with you, it's a pity !

In Europe, with the Live, we can't access Pandora, so buying a new box with only this "plus" would be a big scam !!

It's really the era of disposable, and frankly I do not approve at all, especially when it comes to saving resources.

In any case, even if these boxes are handy for certain aspects, next time I will buy a HTPC, no more futile spending...

It would be cool to see DVD menus on the Live, if the size of the firmware file is any indication there is plenty of room for additional features on the Live, they are only using small part of the firmware memory.

As for Netflix, as you say that isn't available in Europe - but I bet it will be once Google has talked to them about supporting Google TV.

I think I may be done with WD - I'm waiting for Google TV :)
If you think there is something wrong with your WD device contact them and then act upon that: Either wait or move on - don't whine here - this is not WD's board. If you have a problem, start a thread and ask - perhaps someone knows the answer.

June 09, 2010, 09:43:48 AM
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-ScottWD
Additional hardware and hardware provisioning was required to support premium protected content.

-ScottWD
If that really is true, then WD should offer some type of upgrade to current customers.  I've seen people mention that this is no different than anyone who bought an iPhone 3 weeks ago, but it is different.  Apple releases new devices every year on a pretty firm schedule.  They also announced the newest firmware over a month ago.  WDTV users have been patiently waiting for new firmware and instead we find out you have been working on a new device instead.  Had this been announced earlier, the situation may be different.  Instead the device was just magically released without any heads up.

Furthermore, you guys put out some BS press release at the beginning of May championing a new Windows 7 Play to feature that had been available in a firmware release from March.  It's now obvious that press release was obviously put out to spur some sales to clear inventory for this device.

http://gizmodo.com/5533233/windows-7-now-supported-by-western-digitals-tv-live-hd

If WD is going to support customers like this, then they can go to hell.

If WD would have released a press release 2 months ago, that a new model with netflix was coming and you had bought it the day JUST before that press release came out, would you be angry too ? Or should they've sent out a press release that a press release was coming that would annouce a new model ? :)



BTW: WD TV Live will have a product update.   I am packaging the update now.

Awesome, thanks Scott !
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No, I wouldn't be angry, because then I would have had the opportunity to return the product and wait for the upgraded device. 

June 09, 2010, 10:28:21 AM
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No, I wouldn't be angry, because then I would have had the opportunity to return the product and wait for the upgraded device. 
Hehe. Ok, but if the product didnt came out today but a news release instead, saying that the product would come out in 2 months ? That's what I'm saying, it doenst make any difference.
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June 09, 2010, 10:49:24 AM
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I would be much happier if I heard that WD was releasing a new line of 4, 8, and 16 TB drives.


June 09, 2010, 10:58:28 AM
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This is ripsh-t.

My God, this has been the worst tech purchase of my life.

Let's see...

No additional features.
No meaningful bug fixes.
Firmware bricking.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2010, 11:03:57 AM by radio1 »

June 09, 2010, 11:12:30 AM
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Additional hardware and hardware provisioning was required to support premium protected content.

-ScottWD

Scott, you're a great guy.

But this is an insult from Western Digital to the owners of the Live. It does not look good for WD. When was this box in development? The Live has been out for only 8 months!

This means that that if it takes less than 8 months to develop a product like this, then WD used its resources to repair the boondoggle that is the Live by making a new box and not fixing the old one... In essence the Live owners were WD QC/QA.

or...

If it took more than 8 months that means that this new box was developed concurrently with the older one.

I don't know which is worse.


June 09, 2010, 11:27:27 AM
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my 2c,

WD just went about the this in the wrong order. They should have released a firmware update, then released the new product, if everything new is in the firmware update except netflix, I think nobody would care, but as it sits we're all in limbo, until firmware for the live is released, if it doesn't include meaningful features and bug fixes, then I'll be pissed, so far the only known improvements for the plus are: netflix, mediafly, & auto framerate switching, dvd menu support

KAD