Author Topic: BUG v1.02.10 No Subtitle for AVI (softsub?)  (Read 1917 times)

July 30, 2009, 06:49:10 PM
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I have some AVI files but when I play it, WDTV cannot display the sub.

When I tried to play it in my PC using MPlayer (K-Lite) the sub is displayed perfectly trough DirectVobSub. I think it's softsub since I can hide it using the DirecVobSub in PC.

here's the detail info:
- Firmware : v1.02.10
- Connect : composite on regular TV
- File MediaInfo:
General
Complete name                    : SOMETHING.avi
Format                           : AVI
Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
File size                        : 231 MiB
Duration                         : 20mn 43s
Overall bit rate                 : 1 560 Kbps

Video
ID                               : 0
Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                   : Simple@L3
Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
Format settings, QPel            : No
Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                      : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                         : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                    : XviD
Duration                         : 20mn 43s
Bit rate                         : 1 428 Kbps
Width                            : 576 pixels
Height                           : 432 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4/3
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.239
Stream size                      : 212 MiB (92%)
Writing library                  : XviD 1.0.1 (UTC 2004-06-05)

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : MPEG Audio
Format version                   : Version 1
Format profile                   : Layer 3
Codec ID                         : 55
Codec ID/Hint                    : MP3
Duration                         : 20mn 43s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 128 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Sampling rate                    : 44.1 KHz
Resolution                       : 16 bits
Stream size                      : 19.0 MiB (8%)
Alignment                        : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration             : 914 ms (21.92 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration     : 522 ms
Title                            : db_01

Text
ID                               : 2
Duration                         : 20mn 43s
Bit rate                         : 170 bps
Stream size                      : 25.9 KiB (0%)

August 04, 2009, 08:29:45 AM
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August 04, 2009, 12:46:44 PM
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A soft sub is basically a second video layer over the regular movie.  The WDTV can't handle these.  You will have to extract the subs and convert them to a text file, then have it the same same as you AVI file in the same folder.  For example, if you convert to an srt file.

something.avi
something.srt

August 04, 2009, 01:44:44 PM
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A soft sub is basically a second video layer over the regular movie.  The WDTV can't handle these.  You will have to extract the subs and convert them to a text file, then have it the same same as you AVI file in the same folder.  For example, if you convert to an srt file.

something.avi
something.srt


text subtitles like srt fall under the definition of "softsubs"... I don't think you have a correct understanding of the meaning of the word.  Anyway, the avi container is not designed to handle softsubs.  Sometimes they are included in a hackish kind of way, but you are right at least in the sense that wdtv doesn't support that.  If you have an avi, then the subtitles are going to have to be in an external file with the same name as the video.  You can also use mkvmerge to put the subs, video, and audio into a single file using the mkv container and thus reducing the clutter.
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August 04, 2009, 08:19:58 PM
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that is why i use the question mark. I never know until now that avi file can be a softsub.
The files is subbed but not hardsubed because my wdtv doesn't display the sub at all.

Like I said in the first post, using DirectVobSub, i can hide the sub that's why I think it is softsub.

do you think that the sub can be extracted via mkvmerge? although it is not mkv container? or is there any software that I can use to do it? I don't mind extracting all the sub if it can be done in a queue job process.

August 04, 2009, 08:56:02 PM
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do you think that the sub can be extracted via mkvmerge? although it is not mkv container? or is there any software that I can use to do it? I don't mind extracting all the sub if it can be done in a queue job process.

Unfortunately, mkvmerge does not allow the dumping of contents from a container like avi, ogm, or even mkv.  It will only allow you to mux/remux them into an mkv container, and then only if the mkv standard supports it.  If you want to dump the contents of an avi, you can use avimuxgui.

http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/

It will allow you to extract your subtitles if they are srt or ssa format.  BUT!!!! If you are using windows Vista, you need to set the right compatibility mode for the executable.  See: http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/en_faq.php#Q8

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August 04, 2009, 10:04:39 PM
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wow, thanks a lot bro...

I'll try the avimuxgui and since I'm using XP, compatibility is not a problem... :)

August 05, 2009, 07:56:58 AM
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text subtitles like srt fall under the definition of "softsubs"... I don't think you have a correct understanding of the meaning of the word.

Thanks for the clarification.  I've been using the wrong terminology. ???  I was considering subs like srt and other text versions as "text subs".  I called "softsubs" as the second video layer that only contains text similar to closed captioning.  "Hard subs" are the ones where it is embedded in the main video.

November 08, 2009, 07:29:42 PM
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Fixed on fw 1.03.01
case closed :)