Author Topic: Converting DVDs written by Sony Hard Disk Media Recorder for WDTV  (Read 2860 times)

September 15, 2009, 12:52:34 PM
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chrswthomas

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I'm having problems converting DVDs written on a Sony RDR-HX525 hard disk recorder with DVD writer for use on the WDTV.

The problem is that the converted DVD files stutter when played on the WDTV.

The conversion process I'm using is to save content from the hard disk to the DVD writer in the Sony. I then take the DVD and convert it to MKV using MakeMKV - pretty simple.

If I take a commercial DVD (which I own) and rip using DVD Shrink and then convert to MKV, also using MakeMKV, the resulting media file plays flawlessly.

I've also tried using the same process for DVDs written by the Sony - i.e. rip using DVD Shrink and then converting to MKV using MakeMKV. The result is the same when played back - i.e. it still stutters.

So I have to assume that the difference is either the way in which the Sony writes the original media file or the format of the video.

I've attached the output of MediaInfo for:
  • a Sony recorded DVD (stutters)
  • a ripped movie DVD (works)

I'd be grateful for any advice on how to convert the Sony written DVDs so that they play cleanly in the first place and also how to "fix" the media files I've already created.

Thanks.


General
Complete name                    : V:\2009 Grand Prix\10 - Hungary.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 4.04 GiB
Duration                         : 2h 0mn
Overall bit rate                 : 4 814 Kbps
Writing application              : MakeMKV v1.4.5 beta win(x86-release)
Writing library                  : libmakemkv v1.4.5 beta (0.7.7/0.8.0) win(x86-release)

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix          : Default
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info                    : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Duration                         : 2h 0mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 4 462 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 9 800 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4:3
Original display aspect ratio    : 4:3
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.430
Stream size                      : 3.74 GiB (93%)

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 2h 0mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : L R
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : -80ms
Stream size                      : 220 MiB (5%)
Title                            : 2/0

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00:00:00.000                     : Chapter 01
00:00:00.560                     : Chapter 02
00:06:01.624                     : Chapter 03
00:12:06.528                     : Chapter 04
00:17:38.864                     : Chapter 05
00:23:43.736                     : Chapter 06
00:29:55.456                     : Chapter 07
00:36:01.416                     : Chapter 08
00:42:09.584                     : Chapter 09
00:48:12.568                     : Chapter 10
00:54:24.896                     : Chapter 11
01:00:34.344                     : Chapter 12
01:06:07.928                     : Chapter 13
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01:24:28.816                     : Chapter 16
01:30:34.520                     : Chapter 17
01:36:45.952                     : Chapter 18
01:42:55.208                     : Chapter 19
01:48:29.784                     : Chapter 20
01:54:40.448                     : Chapter 21


General
Complete name                    : V:\DVD - Young Victoria\Young Victoria.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 4.56 GiB
Duration                         : 1h 40mn
Overall bit rate                 : 6 492 Kbps
Writing application              : MakeMKV v1.4.5 beta win(x86-release)
Writing library                  : libmakemkv v1.4.5 beta (0.7.7/0.8.0) win(x86-release)

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix          : Default
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info                    : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Duration                         : 1h 40mn
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 5 915 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 9 000 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.571
Stream size                      : 4.15 GiB (91%)

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 1h 40mn
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 448 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 6 channels
Channel positions                : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Video delay                      : -80ms
Stream size                      : 322 MiB (7%)
Title                            : 3/2+1

Menu
00:00:00.000                     : Chapter 01
00:00:02.480                     : Chapter 02
00:10:52.760                     : Chapter 03
00:19:02.600                     : Chapter 04
00:28:10.160                     : Chapter 05
00:39:00.800                     : Chapter 06
00:43:59.360                     : Chapter 07
00:51:04.040                     : Chapter 08
01:01:54.200                     : Chapter 09
01:16:20.960                     : Chapter 10
01:26:18.680                     : Chapter 11
01:32:01.280                     : Chapter 12
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« Last Edit: September 15, 2009, 01:10:51 PM by chrswthomas »

October 31, 2009, 03:11:59 AM
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chrswthomas

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Just thought I would provide an update as I have fixed my problem...

The answer turned out to be a really neat piece of shareware called MPEG Streamclip which is free to download and provides some great functionality.

I loaded the problem VOB files straight into Streamclip and it alerted me to the fact that there were timekey issues - which it then goes on to fix. I can then output the file in MPEG2 (.mpg) and it plays on the WDTV box perfectly - no stuttering and no lip-sync problems.

You can also use Streamclip to edit down a film using a very nice interface. My PC is by no means fast but it runs very efficiently.

Strongly recommend it.

But I now also have my Sky+ box converted to have an ejectable hard drive so that I can very quickly and easily rip FTA movies and programmes I want to save (using +Extract and then Streamclip)... so I only use the DVD recorder for saving stuff from channels which are on Free to View but not Free to Air - of which there are several in the UK.

October 31, 2009, 12:19:42 PM
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Thanks for the update CT.  It will help anyone else who has this unique problem :)

WDTV LIVE with current official FW > HDMI > DVDO > Sony CRT Projector 150" 16/9 screen.  Toslink audio to Yamaha DTS receiver. No Network set up yet.

March 15, 2010, 03:07:16 PM
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Just to let you know i posted my solution similar to the problem that you had at

http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=4990.0

 I tried streamclip too but i found the output file excessively large, also if your video file is in excess of two hours the sony has compressed it already to fit on the dvd, further processing will only further reduce quality, my method outputs the file as a playable .vob without loss

hope it helps