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Title: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08
Post by: 3dxr on May 18, 2009, 12:54:58 PM
Change log:

This is a prerelease version of the firmware. Feel free to install it but be aware this is beta firmware so use it at your own risk. If you are not comfortable with this, please wait for the final version.

Bugs fixed in 1.02.08:
-Some characters still missing from Greek font
-VC-1 MKVs playback poorly
-Audio out of sync during MKV playback
-10 Minute FF and REV doesn't work during MKV playback
-Audio clipping issues

source : http://twitter.com/srader
fw directlink : http://bit.ly/1apxkR
 

thx to blackie84 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16484557#post16484557)
cool fw contain also change log ;)
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: ozzy-tr on May 18, 2009, 10:46:56 PM
what about More audio formats for MKV container ?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: rataweb on May 18, 2009, 11:48:29 PM
Great!!!

Updating new firmware...  ;D
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: MacSimon on May 19, 2009, 01:59:30 AM
what about More audio formats for MKV container ?

Best to get the current ones playing right first.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: Mr Lazy on May 19, 2009, 02:09:19 AM
I know this is only a bug-fix release, but I'm both very pleased and surprised that WD TV (pre)released this so soon after the last one.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: daskino on May 19, 2009, 03:23:18 AM
impressive fw update track record they are building here. has any1 ever seen a big hardware produce being so committed to fw updates in response to forum users?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: sparky909 on May 19, 2009, 03:32:42 AM
impressive fw update track record they are building here. has any1 ever seen a big hardware produce being so committed to fw updates in response to forum users?

D*mn straight. I wholeheartedly agree, and when i saw this forum and the previous firmware history comment and progression it was actually what CONVINCED me to buy the WDTV a few weeks back. Until then i was going to go Popcorn hour. But the responsive and (seemingly) enthusiastic approach by the team at WD pushed me to purchase and i have no regrets. In fact - have recommended the box (albeit on FW 2.03...) to 2 others who just picked them up from PCWorld in the UK, along with a passport drive (like me!). So its going viral.... :-)

I think WD are onto a winning combo here - good/responsive support and a product which grows in ability is a nobrainer for folks to buy. And they get the bonus of most us buying passport drives to work with the boxes as well. As a business proposition they must be very happy with this business unit -- im hoping they give the WDTV Team (or dev guys) a big bonus this year!

On that note - other than this forum - who can we express our thanks to for ongoing commmittment to the product releases (without spamming them i mean)? Or is that the job of the forum leaders?

- s
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: ruddevil on May 19, 2009, 06:21:56 AM
1.02.07 took a week from being pre-release to final release. I think I'll wait for another week. If they can keep the updates / bug fixes regularly (twice a month), I'd be the happiest man on earth.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: jasp on May 19, 2009, 10:34:07 AM
Just updated my player to this latest build and i was very pleasantly surprised that i can now play .iso files and vob file playback is greatly improved!!

I still have issues with *some* mkv files but i'm sure this will be fixed with future firmwares.

Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: 3dxr on May 19, 2009, 10:53:41 AM
thx for info this info wasnt in change log ;)
was so strange release only few fixes after so long time:p
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: gmanvbva on May 19, 2009, 12:29:49 PM
Just updated my player to this latest build and i was very pleasantly surprised that i can now play .iso files and vob file playback is greatly improved!!

I still have issues with *some* mkv files but i'm sure this will be fixed with future firmwares.

What issue were you having with the ISO files? The file size bug?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: sda on May 19, 2009, 12:33:52 PM
impressive fw update track record they are building here. has any1 ever seen a big hardware produce being so committed to fw updates in response to forum users?

 
Not being the devils advocate here, but..
I think that these issues (at least the ones fixed in this update) should not existed in the first place.
I am happy that the people at WD have finally weighted the input, and chose to do the fixes first.

Cheers
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: jayallan on May 19, 2009, 01:04:17 PM
what about More audio formats for MKV container ?

Have you even tried the update?   ???
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: jayallan on May 19, 2009, 01:05:22 PM
impressive fw update track record they are building here. has any1 ever seen a big hardware produce being so committed to fw updates in response to forum users?


On that note - other than this forum - who can we express our thanks to for ongoing commitment to the product releases (without spamming them i mean)? Or is that the job of the forum leaders?

- s

Don't worry they will see it here   :)

Jay
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: jasp on May 19, 2009, 01:18:06 PM
Just updated my player to this latest build and i was very pleasantly surprised that i can now play .iso files and vob file playback is greatly improved!!

I still have issues with *some* mkv files but i'm sure this will be fixed with future firmwares.

What issue were you having with the ISO files? The file size bug?

I couldn't play iso files at all

the issue i have with some mkv files is no audio
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: marcelg on May 19, 2009, 02:13:48 PM
Change log:


-10 Minute FF and REV doesn't work during MKV playback

thx to blackie84 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16484557#post16484557)
cool fw contain also change log ;)

Did someone knows the method to make 10 minutes  FF or REV on mkv?

Thanks
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: sda on May 19, 2009, 02:21:35 PM
Press "rev" then "prev" for -10 mins or "ff" then "next" for +10 mins, while on play mode off coarse
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: marcelg on May 19, 2009, 04:21:32 PM
Press "rev" then "prev" for -10 mins or "ff" then "next" for +10 mins, while on play mode off coarse

Thanks  a lot sda, i will try it tomorrow at home.

Tested and works, thanks again sda.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: PCKid on May 19, 2009, 06:42:00 PM
Just updated my player to this latest build and i was very pleasantly surprised that i can now play .iso files and vob file playback is greatly improved!!

I still have issues with *some* mkv files but i'm sure this will be fixed with future firmwares.

What issue were you having with the ISO files? The file size bug?

I couldn't play iso files at all

the issue i have with some mkv files is no audio .

Me too re mkv. It seems that all the Vuze HD MKV files like the excellent Tekzilla reviews have no audio/
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: ferarias on May 19, 2009, 07:45:49 PM
My MKV/OGG audio problems are fixed. :D
Videos downloaded from Vuze Networks HD. Audio perfect. Video is a bit lazy imo, though.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: ozzy-tr on May 19, 2009, 09:35:48 PM
what about More audio formats for MKV container ?

i think it's vorbis sound support
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: Sonic-NKT on May 20, 2009, 01:52:53 AM
fast forwarding is now much better.
but the skipping audio in 2 of my hd mkvs is still there, its not as bad as with 1.02.07, but still very annoying
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: tkay on May 20, 2009, 02:47:26 AM
The aspect ratio problem with .mkvs seems to be gone! THANK YOU SIRS at WD! Only jump to -feature still to get, then im 100% happy!
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: drake008@ on May 20, 2009, 04:40:43 AM
First of all. Thanks for the 08 version. But there seems to be a slight problem now. I think with the 07 worked this movie file. I put the MediaInfo down there to see if there is something wrong here.

General
Complete name                    :
Format                           : AVI
Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
Format settings                  : rec
File size                        : 270 MiB
Duration                         : 23mn 53s
Overall bit rate                 : 1 582 Kbps

Video
Format                           : VC-1
Codec ID                         : WMV3
Codec ID/Info                    : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint                    : WMV3
Duration                         : 23mn 53s
Bit rate                         : 1 430 Kbps
Width                            : 640 pixels
Height                           : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4/3
Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
Resolution                       : 24 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.194
Stream size                      : 244 MiB (90%)

Audio
Format                           : AAC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : SSR
Format settings, SBR             : No
Muxing mode                      : ADTS
Codec ID                         : FF
Duration                         : 23mn 52s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Channel(s)                       : 3 channels
Channel positions                : L R
Resolution                       : 16 bits
Video delay                      : 467ms
Stream size                      : 23.5 MiB (9%)
Alignment                        : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration             : 21 ms (0.51 video frame)
Title                            : fma01 LPCM T01 48KHz



Maybe its the VC-1 I dont know.

BTW I hope this WDTV2 will be coming very late in 2010 because I got the WDTV for three weeks now and don'T want to hear that the support is being stopped due to a newer version.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: partake on May 20, 2009, 04:41:27 AM
If I update to 1.02.08, do I need to redo b-rad's custom firmware that I currently have on my wdtv?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: drake008@ on May 20, 2009, 04:53:44 AM
I think b-rad must compile a 08 version first.

If you flash the b-rad back you have the 07 back on the wdtv
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: partake on May 20, 2009, 12:34:56 PM
Is it possible to separate the official and unofficial firmware?  I can see the advantage of decoupling the two, but what do I know -- I am a newbie!
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: mgx on May 21, 2009, 08:21:48 AM
I just also want to express thanks to WD, particularly what must be some passionate employees (I know how in a big company it can be just about churning out a product or two). This is great product, great price point and with reference to this thread, great to see firmware updates.

I still have a few mkv files that cause problem, but that's trivial compared to the many others (mostly backups of my childrens DVD collection) that are working perfectly. I hope any WD employee reading this can show it to their management and keep resources on the project and keep firmware coming and focus on the things that will make this player sell in volumes to the wider audience.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: veadtuck on May 21, 2009, 10:05:42 AM
great firmware... working like charme here.

problems with vc1-mkvs are gone. so cool!!  ;D
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: Pol_Aris on May 22, 2009, 01:14:27 PM
Hi All,

Just bought a WDTV due to this GREAT Forum !
It's a great media center , just lacking DTS audio ....
Does anybody knows if it's finally supported ?

PS : I believe that the MKV without sound are the ones with DTS Audio ...

Thanks all
Pol

Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: Ron[NL] on May 22, 2009, 01:58:35 PM
Hi All,

Just bought a WDTV due to this GREAT Forum !
It's a great media center , just lacking DTS audio ....
Does anybody knows if it's finally supported ?

PS : I believe that the MKV without sound are the ones with DTS Audio ...

Thanks all
Pol



DTS is not supported and will not be supported for this product ! See also :

http://wdtv.uservoice.com/pages/17442-general/suggestions/182946-dts-downmix-and-hdmi-pass-through (http://wdtv.uservoice.com/pages/17442-general/suggestions/182946-dts-downmix-and-hdmi-pass-through)

You can use a program called mediainfo to see details on media-files.
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en)
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: jbs1077 on May 23, 2009, 08:18:06 AM
I think I'm experiencing a bug with the IR remote with the latest beta FW. My WDTV would not respond to my remote and when it does it would skip through several menu as if it was pressed several times. I read from another forum of what was believed to be a problem mainly with Samsung LCD TV and specifically with its Energy Saving feature. From the thread, it was concluded that when we have this feature ON it would somehow create the remote bug. I first encountered this bug with the 1.02.03 FW. One of the user who had similar problem posted an alternative method by placing a black tape (or a solid color tape) between the Power and USB indicator on the WDTV. But, I chose to turn off the ES feature instead to solve the problem. Then, a couple of days ago I upgraded to 1.02.08 and this bug appeared again, however, I wasn't using the ES feature. I tried the tape solution but later decided to revert back to 1.02.08. Hope the WD team figure out how to deal with this bug since I know I'm not the only one with this problem.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: bobosquishy on May 23, 2009, 02:41:39 PM
I think I'm experiencing a bug with the IR remote with the latest beta FW. My WDTV would not respond to my remote and when it does it would skip through several menu as if it was pressed several times. I read from another forum of what was believed to be a problem mainly with Samsung LCD TV and specifically with its Energy Saving feature. From the thread, it was concluded that when we have this feature ON it would somehow create the remote bug. I first encountered this bug with the 1.02.03 FW. One of the user who had similar problem posted an alternative method by placing a black tape (or a solid color tape) between the Power and USB indicator on the WDTV. But, I chose to turn off the ES feature instead to solve the problem. Then, a couple of days ago I upgraded to 1.02.08 and this bug appeared again, however, I wasn't using the ES feature. I tried the tape solution but later decided to revert back to 1.02.08. Hope the WD team figure out how to deal with this bug since I know I'm not the only one with this problem.

That was a cross-post.  See http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=883 if you want to respond, so that we don't end up having two threads responding to the same guy about the same problem.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: MaxxPower on May 25, 2009, 06:38:54 AM
I have 2 Iomega MiniMax drives which can be used as hubs. I have one drive plugged into the WDTV and the other drive plugged into the first drive. With the 07 firmware, the WDTV recognized both drives on the same port and I was able to select between them (through the folder menu the USB1 port would show, then the 2 different drives from there). Now with the 08 firmware it only recognizes one drive, and it's usually a random one, doesn't matter which one is plugged directly in, but I can't access both drives at the same time like I was able to before.
Has anyone else had any issues with hubs on this new firmware?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: bobosquishy on May 25, 2009, 04:00:32 PM
Yes, some people have reported that usb hubs are broken in 1.02.08, although I have seen talk that they were never officially supported anyway.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: ispkmyk on May 26, 2009, 09:21:47 AM
Still no info about playing ISO and VIDEO_TS folder?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: PCKid on May 26, 2009, 06:37:20 PM
It doesn't like large mpeg2 files. Don't know what the cut off point is but F1 and MotoGP that I record in mpg2 can be as large as 30 or 40GB. After playing for awhile Fast Forwarding becomes unusable where the time counter doesn't reflect where you will end up when you press play again and strangely you can loose the commentary track and only have the car or bike sounds. But short half hour TV shows, typically 2 or 3GB have no problem.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: Stick on May 26, 2009, 06:44:37 PM
Still no info about playing ISO and VIDEO_TS folder?
Mine plays the VOB files no problem.  What is your issue with the VIDEO_TS folder?  Just play the first file that appears in the folder.  Also, make sure you don't get rid of the file structure (AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders) or you will sometimes experience audio issues.  Don't know why, but I was trying to simplify the number of folders I had to click through and put all the VOB/IFO files under my movie folder and delete the AUDIO_TS folder and the WDTV didn't like that at all. 
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: veadtuck on May 27, 2009, 11:54:58 AM
Still no info about playing ISO and VIDEO_TS folder?
Mine plays the VOB files no problem.  What is your issue with the VIDEO_TS folder?  Just play the first file that appears in the folder.  Also, make sure you don't get rid of the file structure (AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders) or you will sometimes experience audio issues.  Don't know why, but I was trying to simplify the number of folders I had to click through and put all the VOB/IFO files under my movie folder and delete the AUDIO_TS folder and the WDTV didn't like that at all. 
that has nothing to do with the question from ispkmyk. :)

he is asking for normal dvd-structure parsing. not playing vobs directly. try playing movies with multiangle or seamless branching... they will look funny, when you only play the vobs without a parsing info through ifos.

so i beg, that the WDTV will get native dvd-structure support. that would make this thing perfect. i miss this feature so much :(
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: ruffjustice on June 01, 2009, 08:15:43 PM
any new updates past 1.02.9 ? thank you  :)
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: z0diac on June 03, 2009, 04:03:17 AM
Change log:

This is a prerelease version of the firmware. Feel free to install it but be aware this is beta firmware so use it at your own risk. If you are not comfortable with this, please wait for the final version.

Bugs fixed in 1.02.08:
-Some characters still missing from Greek font
-VC-1 MKVs playback poorly
-Audio out of sync during MKV playback
-10 Minute FF and REV doesn't work during MKV playback
-Audio clipping issues

source : http://twitter.com/srader
fw directlink : http://bit.ly/1apxkR
 

thx to blackie84 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16484557#post16484557)
cool fw contain also change log ;)

If anyone knows where to download this latest update, an URL posting to it would be *great* - thanks in advance!
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: Mr Lazy on June 03, 2009, 04:29:59 AM
If anyone knows where to download this latest update, an URL posting to it would be *great* - thanks in advance!

It's in the very post you are quoting:
fw directlink : http://bit.ly/1apxkR
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: srmisterio on June 03, 2009, 08:27:47 AM
Hi,

 I have a question. where this update came from? It's because the official page http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/ say that is 1.02.07.  ???

Thanks
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: larry sellers on June 03, 2009, 09:05:52 AM
Hi,

 I have a question. where this update came from? It's because the official page http://www.wdc.com/en/products/wdtv/ say that is 1.02.07.  ???

Thanks

It is the prerelease. 1.02.07 is still the official fw.

Change log:

This is a prerelease version of the firmware. Feel free to install it but be aware this is beta firmware so use it at your own risk. If you are not comfortable with this, please wait for the final version.

Bugs fixed in 1.02.08:
-Some characters still missing from Greek font
-VC-1 MKVs playback poorly
-Audio out of sync during MKV playback
-10 Minute FF and REV doesn't work during MKV playback
-Audio clipping issues

source : http://twitter.com/srader
fw directlink : http://bit.ly/1apxkR
 

thx to blackie84 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16484557#post16484557)
cool fw contain also change log ;)
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: ean611 on June 03, 2009, 05:50:06 PM
I think I found a bug.

Whenever I plug my HDD into the WD TV, some tracks show up more than once. The two folders affected were Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band, and Guns N' Roses. Both have ' in their folder name, so I'm going to see if removing that prevents the songs from showing up many times in the library.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: pomigit on June 04, 2009, 05:05:32 PM
Hi All,

Just bought a WDTV due to this GREAT Forum !
It's a great media center , just lacking DTS audio ....
Does anybody knows if it's finally supported ?

PS : I believe that the MKV without sound are the ones with DTS Audio ...

Thanks all
Pol



DTS is not supported and will not be supported for this product ! See also :

http://wdtv.uservoice.com/pages/17442-general/suggestions/182946-dts-downmix-and-hdmi-pass-through (http://wdtv.uservoice.com/pages/17442-general/suggestions/182946-dts-downmix-and-hdmi-pass-through)

You can use a program called mediainfo to see details on media-files.
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en)

Correct me if im wrong but I thought DTS was supported but only through optical audio. I have a couple of MKV blu ray rips which contain digital dts audio and whilst they dont play through HDMI or composite, they play perfectly when hooked upto an amp through optical audio.

Have I missed something?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: dextertech on June 05, 2009, 02:47:38 AM
Correct me if im wrong but I thought DTS was supported but only through optical audio. I have a couple of MKV blu ray rips which contain digital dts audio and whilst they dont play through HDMI or composite, they play perfectly when hooked upto an amp through optical audio.

Have I missed something?

The WDTV can't decode DTS thus not supported. If you hook the WDTV to an AMP, the AMP does all the work. The DTS signal is just passed over
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: larry sellers on June 05, 2009, 04:14:05 AM
The only thing the WDTV is missing is a DTS hardware decoder. dextertech is correct in that it just relays the dts signal to your amplifier, which has the DTS decoder.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: veadtuck on June 07, 2009, 04:18:12 AM
why should the wdtv decode such stuff? decode dts to stereo?

sorry i can't understand this, the wdtv is mainly an HD-thing... so why decode dts to stereo? the wdtv do not have any 5.1-cinch output, so it does not make any sense.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: danniee on June 07, 2009, 11:30:30 AM
Please, please, please give us ISO menue possibility!! That would make this the best thing since porn!
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: richex on June 08, 2009, 07:39:57 PM
veadtuck, in my case I have an HD TV but I don't have a DTS decoder, so stereo downmix would allow me to...listen to the movies :)
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: acer2k on June 09, 2009, 04:52:09 AM
Not every one, that have a HDTV Screen have an Amplifier too.

Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: wdflex on June 09, 2009, 08:58:53 AM
Hi,

Did they solve the bug that no 2 lines of subtitles would be able to be visible at the same time (in 1.02.07). I had to go back to old firmware to fix this.

cheers
Wdflex
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: MaxxPower on June 09, 2009, 10:51:52 AM
Hi All,

Just bought a WDTV due to this GREAT Forum !
It's a great media center , just lacking DTS audio ....
Does anybody knows if it's finally supported ?

PS : I believe that the MKV without sound are the ones with DTS Audio ...

Thanks all
Pol



DTS is not supported and will not be supported for this product ! See also :

http://wdtv.uservoice.com/pages/17442-general/suggestions/182946-dts-downmix-and-hdmi-pass-through (http://wdtv.uservoice.com/pages/17442-general/suggestions/182946-dts-downmix-and-hdmi-pass-through)

You can use a program called mediainfo to see details on media-files.
http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en)

Correct me if im wrong but I thought DTS was supported but only through optical audio. I have a couple of MKV blu ray rips which contain digital dts audio and whilst they dont play through HDMI or composite, they play perfectly when hooked upto an amp through optical audio.

Have I missed something?
DTS is bitstreamed (passed through) BOTH optical and HDMI, as long as either cable is connected to a component that contains a DTS decoder, DTS tracks play fine. If you have a receiver that has HDMI inputs there is no need for the optical connection (as long as your receiver decodes DTS, but if it has HDMI inputs it more than likely does).
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: veadtuck on June 10, 2009, 09:05:48 AM
Not every one, that have a HDTV Screen have an Amplifier too.
so... buy one... really.

this is the strangest thing i've ever heard. to have a hdtv and no soundsystem.  ???
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: adic95 on June 11, 2009, 06:59:24 AM
it may be strange, but maybe you want to see a movie in the middle of the night and don't want to start the ht system, just watch it on tv set.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: taylorw on June 11, 2009, 08:41:57 AM
"DTS is bitstreamed (passed through) BOTH optical and HDMI, as long as either cable is connected to a component that contains a DTS decoder, DTS tracks play fine. If you have a receiver that has HDMI inputs there is no need for the optical connection (as long as your receiver decodes DTS, but if it has HDMI inputs it more than likely does)."- MaxxPower


I just bought a receiver (STR-DH500) in order to hear audio on MKV's with DTS audio tracks (which happen to be about half of my MKV's). The STR-DH500 has 3 HDMI inputs and 1 HDMI output to the TV.

So I connected the components as follows:
HDMI out on WDTV ----> HDMI input on receiver.
Receiver HDMI out -----> HDMI input on television.

But there was still no audio to be heard when playing back MKV's with DTS audio! With the WDTV output set to stereo, I was able to hear AC3 audio through the TV speakers only. No sound was heard through the speakers connected to the receiver. Then I set the WDTV audio output to Digital. With this option no sound was heard period. No audio for AC3 or DTS on the TV speakers or the receiver speakers.

So I purchased a digital optical audio cable in hopes that this would remedy the problem and lo and behold it did! AC3 and DTS work perfect. The receiver even displays whether it is playing DTS or Dolby Digital depending on which file I play!

So my question is why was I unable to get the proper digital audio from the HDMI cable?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: udax on June 11, 2009, 09:56:31 AM


So my question is why was I unable to get the proper digital audio from the HDMI cable?


There is no mystery here.  Most low end and even a few mid-range AVRs do NOT look at any audio coming in via HDMI.  At most they pass it through.  You can get DTS through to an amp over HDMI only if the amp is capable of DECODING HDMI AUDIO.  You need use the optical connection to your amp.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: bobosquishy on June 11, 2009, 09:23:44 PM
this is the strangest thing i've ever heard. to have a hdtv and no soundsystem.  ???

Why is that so strange?  I don't have a sound system hooked up to my HDTV either.  One of the great things about flatscreen televisions is that they save electricity.  Hooking up a sound system to it would use more energy.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: Mr Lazy on June 12, 2009, 05:52:03 AM
so... buy one... really.

this is the strangest thing i've ever heard. to have a hdtv and no soundsystem.  ???

Yeah, 'cause we all have loads of money.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: larry sellers on June 12, 2009, 06:55:28 AM
Being the parent of a toddler, I keep my wdtv in the bedroom. The 95% of the movies I watch are not appropriate for children, so it stays where little eyes cannot see. I am sure my wife would love DTS surround in the bedroom b/c she is a night owl, but waking up to that might make me a little cranky.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: veadtuck on June 13, 2009, 02:21:04 AM
so... buy one... really.

this is the strangest thing i've ever heard. to have a hdtv and no soundsystem.  ???

Yeah, 'cause we all have loads of money.
really... if you can buy a flatscreen, and want to watch hd-mkvs, it's only half of the game to have no soundsystem.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: Tobber on June 13, 2009, 04:51:23 AM
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really... if you can buy a flatscreen, and want to watch hd-mkvs, it's only half of the game to have no soundsystem.

Not exactlly because 90% what you perceive is through the eyes, only 10% trough your ears - this applies while watching a movie...
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: elmarweber on June 13, 2009, 05:11:40 AM
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really... if you can buy a flatscreen, and want to watch hd-mkvs, it's only half of the game to have no soundsystem.

Not exactlly because 90% what you perceive is through the eyes, only 10% trough your ears - this applies while watching a movie...

This maybe scientifically right, but the problem is that one personally does not see it that way =)

I've a 50" plasma and no surround sound system because a good surround system costs about 1.5-2 times as much as the flat screen and the sound system wouldn't really be able to shine in the current room (tiles on the floor and some glass vitrines). Now, while the plasma has a superb image and I enjoy it, when watching action scene I'm always missing surround sound (and definitely more than 10% =). It's the reason I'm still going to the cinema for good action movies.

ciao,
elm
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: veadtuck on June 13, 2009, 05:48:07 AM
Quote
really... if you can buy a flatscreen, and want to watch hd-mkvs, it's only half of the game to have no soundsystem.

Not exactlly because 90% what you perceive is through the eyes, only 10% trough your ears - this applies while watching a movie...
i absolutely NOT agree with that. :D

@elmarwebar, also i do not agree to your statement, that a good soundsystem has to be 1.5-2 times as much as the flatscreen. my new samsung 46" cost me 800, my "old" marantz 6001 and teufel concept m speakers were together 500... and believe me, these little bastards are really good enough for "normal" dts/ac3.

so having a good soundsystem is for normal purpose much cheaper than a good flatpanel.

to come back to topic:

of course, it would help some people if wdtv could decode dts. but i think that will be too much cpu-power (if wdtv will decode this by software), which the wdtv doesn't have. also is this a license-thing. to have dts-hardware, to decode the stuff on hardware-base. also my samsung flatscreen decodes only ac3, and no dts.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: elmarweber on June 13, 2009, 06:04:28 AM
@elmarwebar, also i do not agree to your statement, that a good soundsystem has to be 1.5-2 times as much as the flatscreen. my new samsung 46" cost me 800, my "old" marantz 6001 and teufel concept m speakers were together 500... and believe me, these little bastards are really good enough for "normal" dts/ac3.

so having a good soundsystem is for normal purpose much cheaper than a good flatpanel.

You are right of course for home cinema purposes. I forgot to mention that for my use case the front speakers would also be used for a lot of Jazz and Classic music. And currently the problem (with regard to money =) is that I still hear a notable difference between smaller satellites like the Teufel speakers and full range speakers.
For home cinema the Teufel systems are very good for surround, I friend of mine has the Concepts too (don't know the model name, the ones with the stand integrated and that are a meter high). Maybe in the long term going with two systems, one for 5.1 and one music is the better solution, but because of the poor acoustics of my current living room it wouldn't matter anyway.

ciao,
elm
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: bobosquishy on June 13, 2009, 10:31:42 AM
Obviously there is no reason for the built-in speakers on a tv to exist.  End of discussion.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: BDamian on June 15, 2009, 01:34:20 PM
Hi,

Im steel having problems with subtitles. I dont know why but the only firmware version that subtitles works ok is 1.01.02

Every further version has the same problem. With most subtitles do not show double lines.

If the dialog have only one line, it work great, better than previous versions. But the second (and the other) lines are not showned.

Are you aware of this problem?
Thanks.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: BDamian on June 15, 2009, 02:07:07 PM
Well, I find the subtitles problem.

In earlier versions, the subtitles files that best worked was .ssa
Now, with this type of files, WDTV has problmes. I changed the file type to .str and work realy good.
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: bobosquishy on June 15, 2009, 04:21:07 PM
I changed the file type to .str and work realy good.

Did you mean .srt?
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: ~ kyogoku ~ on June 16, 2009, 02:01:31 AM
has anyone know when the official firmware will be released? :)
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: catire on June 16, 2009, 07:13:53 PM
1.02.10 was just released :)


http://www.wdc.com/wdtvprerelease/
Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08
Post by: heathtrost on September 15, 2009, 12:07:43 PM
I read in the readme for this firmware update it would fix the issue of

-  USB drive spindown on WDTV standby

I have applied this firmware and it appears my usb passport drive is still powered up and running warm.

Title: Re: WDTV Software Update 1.02.08 NEW
Post by: jayallan on September 15, 2009, 12:58:11 PM
Obviously there is no reason for the built-in speakers on a tv to exist.  End of discussion.

They come with speakers???

Actually my TV has no speakers and no tuner. Just the way it should be.

And I don't think my 4x3' Klipsch speakers would fit in any tv anyway :)