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Title: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on November 29, 2009, 08:57:10 PM
I own the WDTV gen1, I've upgraded to the Live version.  Same exact connections, which is HDMI to DVI.  No matter which output resolution and 12/8bit, rgb, etc, the signal is stuck at 480p.  The wdtv informs me that i'm at 720p, or 1080p, but my set inform me that i'm at 480.  I've run display tests and I can confirm that indeed the output is 480p.  I hope someone can help me resolve the problem.  This problem didn't exists in WDTV gen1.  Perhaps there is a way to force the output on this latest device or next firmware.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: zoster on November 30, 2009, 12:04:16 PM
I had the same problem during initial setup. Try reconnecting you HDMI cable while your TV and WDTV are on.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on November 30, 2009, 10:35:46 PM
thanks for the advice, however it still hasn't worked for me.  There are others in the avsforum who are reporting similar findings.  Gen1 wdtv always forced out the resolution, this one, not only doesn't but also reports that it did.  Its a bug, I wish that they 1st acknowledge the problem and then fix it.  I really love this tiny device and the upgrades they've done since Gen1, but this is a major problem for me.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: perpetual on December 01, 2009, 04:01:13 PM

11/27
Bought WDTV Live came with firmware 1.01.00
Hooked up with brand new HDMI 1.3b cable and HDMI - DVI adapter to Toshiba 51" model 51H83 DVI Input
Worked fine
Immediately upgraded firmware to 1.01.11 using USB1 - Upgraded OK

11/28
Tested and watched 1280x720 XvidHD avi and 1280x720 avc1 MKV files
from 2.5" external hard drive on USB1 and USB2
(2.5" external enclosure needs extra USB2 port for power to spin up 7200 rpm drive)

11/29
Tested and watched 1280x720 XvidHD avi and 1280x720 avc1 MKV files
from 3.5" external hard drive on USB2

11/30
8 GB Verbatim flash drive on USB1
3.5" external enclosure on USB2
Powered up all devices using power bar
WDTV Live using HDMI will only output 480
Tried different HDMI to DVI adapter - same issue 480 output only

Connected WDTV Live to Samsung 19" computer monitor DVI input
During the boot process (when the WD logo is displayed) the Samsung monitor shows the display resolution as 1366x768
When the main WDTV Live menu appears the Samsung monitor shows the display resolution as 720x480

Connected the WDTV Live using component cable to Toshiba 51" model 51H83
Component correctly shows 720p / 1080i resolutions


It seems the WDTV Live's HDMI output is locked at 480 - very frustrating

Tried reverting back to 1.01.00 still locked at 480
Went back to 1.01.11

HDMI still locked at 480

:-(
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: perpetual on December 04, 2009, 06:02:14 PM

This is for GuyWD

Here is my Toshiba 51H83 edid.bin for when my WDTVLive was working for 3 days with HDMI to DVI

Save as edid.bin

Code: [Select]
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
Now only a 0 byte edid.bin file gets created on any removable device and HDMI output is locked at 480
:-(
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on December 05, 2009, 10:47:05 PM
Perpetual, I'm going to get a new wdtv live, since with the new fw my unit got bricked.  Do you suggest that I shouldn't run a fw upgrade?  When I get the new unit I'll test it to see if the original fw works with dvi.  If it does, I'll stick with it.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on December 06, 2009, 01:35:02 PM
Okay, got the replacement unit with original firmware that came with wdtv live.  The hdmi to dvi bug is there, so it was always there.   Hopefully they'll fix this in the newest fw.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on December 25, 2009, 05:10:41 AM
Just bought one of these for my parents and i can confirm the problem. Using HDMI -> DVI. The EDID in the TV contains the standars timings for 720p and also 1360x768 but i only get 480p no matter what i set it to.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on December 25, 2009, 09:47:30 AM
stromrickard, how exactly do you read the edid.bin file?  I can't figure out which program lets you view the info. 
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on December 25, 2009, 10:46:45 AM
Use a PC and the following application: http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm. (http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/moninfo.shtm.)
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on December 25, 2009, 11:47:18 AM
thanks stromrickard, it works.  I'm trying to understand this edid issue.  Is it something we can edit and fix this issue from our side or the fix has to come from WDTV?
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on December 25, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
Most TV's, like the one my parents have, does unfortunatly have a writeprotected EDID so you can't change it. There are ways around it like the Gefen detective (kinda expensive) but we still need to know what in the EDID the WDTV doesn't understand if that's the issue which i'm unsure of. The only difference in the EDID when using DVI is that you don't have information on audioformats supported. Timings are constructed in the same way.

I've spent some time looking at EDID's and even wrote my own for a TV at home since the manufactorer forgot to add some resolutions (like native, 720@50 and 720@60) and there's nothing wrong with the one in my parents TV.

I haven't looked at any of the homebrew firmwares but perhaps they have a way of forcing a timing? It's however a bug in the WDTV that WD should fix.

Edit and OT:
Seems the device has network issues at well. Took me over an hour to get network sharing working with W7. Seems that after starting the device it takes about 5 minutes for it to discover the network share and the only devices on the network are the WDTV and the PC. I'm seriously considering returing it.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on December 25, 2009, 03:19:57 PM
stromrickard, I have no doubt that networking will be fixed in the future firmware.  For now I'm running the network thru tversity and everything works fine.   I came from 1st Gen wdtv and I love this little device, it had few bugs and most have been resolved with updates.  The Live version is a bit more buggy, but I'm sure they'll get it right, eventually.
However, I'm not sure if the edid problem will be fixed anytime soon, thats a big one for me.
There is this device:  DVI Doctor - Powered EDID Problem Solver from monoprice.  I don't know if that will do the job, but it might.  Do you have an opinion on it? 
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on December 26, 2009, 01:44:10 AM
The same device but for HDMI instead of DVI could solve the problem i think. You could then let it copy the EDID of a TV with a HDMI-port and then connect it between your WDTV and TV. Your WDTV would only see the EDID of the HDMI TV.

We can however not be sure of that the EDID is the problem but i think it's the prime suspect.

Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: theslydog on December 26, 2009, 06:10:30 PM
DVI stuck on 480p - silvereyes this is something I reported a few months back on AVSForum to WD but no fix yet.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17379396#post17379396 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17379396#post17379396)

What you are best to do in the mean time is plug the WDTV Live in through the Component cable. You can still select 1080i60 and it should work fine. For me, the picture quality through the component is virtually the same as through the HDMI cable. I have a Gen1 through HDMI-DVI 1080i60 and a WDTV Live through Component 1080i60 and I can't tell much difference when they play the same file.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on January 12, 2010, 01:53:13 PM
Has anyone tested the new firmware and checked if this problem is fixed?
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on January 12, 2010, 02:10:59 PM
I've updated to the newest fw *.17, it did NOT fix the problem
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: bod on January 23, 2010, 04:58:52 AM
Same issue here. Stuck @ 480p using HDMI to DVI.

I have three other devices working fine xbox360, bluray player, PC. It's only the WD TV Live that states it's outputting 1080p but is actually outputting 480p.

I for one am not paying anyone to fix something that should work. And then theres the colourspace issue. Looks like I will have to get a refund.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: tellyfiend on January 23, 2010, 09:39:05 AM
I have the WDTV HD which I have connected using HDMI > DVI to two different monitors:

1) Digimate L-2362WD (23" Full HD 1920x1080 5ms 16:9 VGA/DVI) only shows the WDTV in 480p and this means some of the image is not visible.

2) Viewsonic VX2260WM (22" Full HD 1920x1080 2ms 16:9 VGA/DVI/HDMI) works pefectly using the above connection (indeed the pixel mapping is more accurate than using HDMI > HDMI)

Anyway the Viewsonic gives a great picture, so I'm using that!

Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: FALK on January 31, 2010, 01:23:56 PM
Got the same problem.
Excerpt when running /bin/dmaosd

Code: [Select]
[hdmi.c:1077] Input Video Format is 12 bit YCbCr 4:4:4 709
[hdmi.c:1122] Output Video Format is 8 bit RGB 0..255
[hdmi.c:1597] [HDMI] EDID block 1 done.
[hdmi.c:1690] [HDMI] Done reading all of 1 EDID blocks.
EDID[0][00]: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00
EDID[0][08]: 22 F0 76 26 01 01 01 01
EDID[0][10]: 25 11 01 03 80 34 21 78
EDID[0][18]: EE EF 95 A3 54 4C 9B 26
EDID[0][20]: 0F 50 54 A5 6B 80 81 40
EDID[0][28]: 81 80 81 99 71 00 A9 00
EDID[0][30]: A9 40 B3 00 D1 00 28 3C
EDID[0][38]: 80 A0 70 B0 23 40 30 20
EDID[0][40]: 36 00 07 44 21 00 00 1A
EDID[0][48]: 00 00 00 FD 00 30 55 1E
EDID[0][50]: 5E 11 00 0A 20 20 20 20
EDID[0][58]: 20 20 00 00 00 FC 00 48
EDID[0][60]: 50 20 4C 50 32 34 36 35
EDID[0][68]: 0A 20 20 20 00 00 00 FF
EDID[0][70]: 00 43 5A 4B 37 33 37 30
EDID[0][78]: 34 32 4A 0A 20 20 00 88
    [HDMI]     Status: [----T--E-]
[hdmi_loop.c:320] [HDMI] Parsing new EDID with 1 blocks...
[hdmi_loop.c:339] [HDMI]    ***   Request Reconfiguration.
[hdmi_loop.c:352] [HDMI] EDID with 1 blocks parsed, supporting:
       DVI, RGB only, 24 bit color, no 3D.
       DTD 1920x1200p59.95 519:324 - Preferred

  HH  HH  HHHHH   HH   HH  HHHH      HHHH   HH   HH
  HH  HH  HH  HH  HHH HHH   HH      HH  HH  HHH  HH
  HHHHHH  HH  HH  HH H HH   HH      HH  HH  HH H HH
  HH  HH  HH  HH  HH   HH   HH      HH  HH  HH  HHH
  HH  HH  HHHHH   HH   HH  HHHH      HHHH   HH   HH

Display is DVI
[hdmi_edid.c:913]   [EDID VIDEO MODE SELECTION]  Matching 1920x1080i59, 16:9
[hdmi_edid.c:526] [HDMI] EDID: matching mode with v=60/1.001, w=1920, h=1080, i=1, x=16, y=9
[hdmi_edid.c:312] Failed to get TVStandard from DTD, and use of TVFormat was not permitted!
  No best mode, using VIC 3 (720x480p 59.94/60Hz (4:3)), HDMI_480p59, 4:3
[hdmi_edid.c:931] [HDMI] VIC from EDID: VIC 3, 720x480p 59.94/60Hz (16:9), 16:9
[hdmi_edid.c:981] [HDMI] HDMI ColorSpace: YCbCr 709
[HDMI] TVStandard from EDID: VIC 3, 720x480p 59.94/60Hz (16:9), <unknown>, 16:9
[HDMI] HDMI ColorSpace: YCbCr 709
[HDMI] Same mode on SMP Digital Out and HDMI Tx

If we somehow could fake the EDID it might be possible. Perhaps by injecting it into the memory on run time.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on February 01, 2010, 06:38:44 AM
I'm having a discussion about this problem with their customer service. According to them they don't support connection with DVI and it hasn't been advertised or sold with this capability.

I sent them the following reply but haven't heard from them yet:


But you are in fact advertising it and selling it as compatible with DVI. According to your specifications the device supports HDMI 1.3:

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/index.asp?cat=30 (http://www.wdc.com/en/products/index.asp?cat=30)

http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/UM/ENG/4779-705035.pdf (http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/UM/ENG/4779-705035.pdf)



That also means that youíre advertising it as compatible with DVI.



HDMI 1.3 should be backwards compatible with DVI 1.0. Please see the specification for HDMI: http://www.hdmi.org/pdf/HDMISpecInformationalVersion.pdf. (http://www.hdmi.org/pdf/HDMISpecInformationalVersion.pdf.) See appendix ďCĒ:



ďAll HDMI Sources shall be compatible with DVI 1.0 compliant sink devices (i.e. .monitors. or .displays.) through the use of a passive cable converter. Likewise, all HDMI Sinks shall be compatible with DVI 1.0 compliant sources (i.e. .systems. or .hosts.) through the use of a similar cable converter.Ē



You canít claim that it wasnít designed for DVI or that you donít support it while claiming that it supports HDMI 1.3. That is false advertising.



Also worth mentioning is that it works fine with WDTV (non-Live) from what Iíve found.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: FALK on February 01, 2010, 08:00:23 AM
I do not think the problem is the type of connection, but the resolution reported by the display through EDID. As seen in the above log it fails to match with the, by display reported value, of 1920x1200p59.95. It then falls back to the lowest resolution. If my displays EDID said 1920x1080p I guess it would match and then output 1080p.

I think the problem could be solved by:

- Reprogram the EDID of the display to return 1080p as valid resolution.
- Change the fallback value to 1080p instead of 480p.
- Add 1920x1200 as a valid resolution on the WD TV, instead of the usual 16:9 resolutions.

But I have no idea on how to do the last two, as I think they are handled by the dmaosd blob.

Would be great if some people posted the stdout when running dmaosd (use custom fw, ssh, find the process id with ps, kill it and then restart it by running /bin/dmaosd).
Edit: perhaps also the output from the old WD TV, where it supposedly works.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on February 01, 2010, 11:34:11 AM
No, that just an atempt to escape the problem by WDC.

My parents TVs EDID contains the standard timing for 1280x720@60hz which is supported by the device. It should be able to match that. It should also be able to understand detailed timings.
They live kinda far away and i will not be able to visit them any time soon so i can't provide a dump.

Unfortunatly the EDID of the TV is writeprotected so i can't do anything about it.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on February 01, 2010, 02:20:49 PM
Just got the following reply from WDC:

The unit does indeed support HDMI 1.3, and is advertised as such since the interface port on it is an HDMI-type connection.

However, the unit does not advertise or provide support on a direct DVI connection nor the use of a converter in order to reach a DVI port. For this reason, this is not false advertisement.

It is just as when you connect a Fire-Wire drive through an USB converter into a USB port. The fact that it is possible, does not mean that it will be supported by all devices.

This particular device, though capable as advertised of performing through HDMI 1.3 connection, is not advertised or supported under the use of a HDMI - DVI conversion. We empathize with the issue encountered.

I hope that we have met your expectations today and that you are satisfied with our service. If you have any further questions, please reply to this email and we will be happy to assist you further.



Is it just me that finds it amusing that they state that they support HDMI 1.3 while stating that they don't follow the standard? As far as i know the USB-standard doesn't specify compability with fireware so how is that relevant? Also we're not talking of any conversion here.

I know driving the issue further is pointless but i still might for my own amusement. At least i know i will not be fixed so i can return the unit. As greatful as i am for B-Rads offer to look into the problem i'm not going to pay to have a bug in their firmware fixed.

Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: FALK on February 01, 2010, 03:24:45 PM
I currently have both wdtv live and 1st gen wdtv.  The only reason I kept the original one was for playing movies at 720p, output to my projector (dvi).  The live version I use for my tv, primarily for youtube.  I can't wait till the day they'll fixed this awful problem of this hdmi-dvi low res output.  Since I can easily have both machines hooked up to the same dvi display, what exact info do you guys want to compare the two units?   I can email you whatever file info that is generation, but not sure what it is.
If wdtv can't come up with a fix sometimes soon, I wish some of us can get together and have B-rad look into it. 

Can you run dmaosd (if called so on 1st gen wdtv) on both units and post the displayed info?
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on February 01, 2010, 04:30:05 PM
FALK, I'll be happy to assist.  Where do I get this dmaosd and how do i run it; or extract the info you need?

since I can easily also switch between the projector and the tv, I can post all four results.  My tv has hdmi and both wdtvs work fine on it.  Its the darn dvi projector that is giving me the problems.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: FALK on February 02, 2010, 07:08:16 AM
FALK, I'll be happy to assist.  Where do I get this dmaosd and how do i run it; or extract the info you need?

since I can easily also switch between the projector and the tv, I can post all four results.  My tv has hdmi and both wdtvs work fine on it.  Its the darn dvi projector that is giving me the problems.

dmaosd is the software responsible for running the interface and setting up the display etc, so it is already on your wd tvs.
You need custom firmware and be able to ssh to the box, then do this:

Type top and find the PID of /bin/dmaosd
Type kill PID, the display should go out
Then /bin/dmasod

It should then write out a lot of information, including the status of the display setup, as posted above.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: bod on February 02, 2010, 11:32:31 AM
That reply by WDC conveniently glanced over the fact that if you advertice it as HDMI compliant it needs to meet the criteria and it doesn't. There is no argument or maybe's.

I flogged my WD TV Live to my colleague as I knew WD would do nothing about it. Off to a competitor and never touching a WD product again!
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: gogetas on February 04, 2010, 11:49:55 AM
Same problem here, hdmi->dvi and tv says "480p". Wdtvlive is set to 720p/60hz
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on February 09, 2010, 04:34:46 PM
New firmware version 1.01.24, did anyone check if it solves our problems yet?  I'll be able to test it later today and i'll report results.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on February 09, 2010, 07:13:41 PM
Update, sadly this problem hasn't been solved.  Very disappointing.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: GuyWD on February 11, 2010, 05:26:58 PM
If you guys can upload the edid.bin file from the .wd_tv folder created on your USB drive, I can look into this.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: gogetas on February 12, 2010, 04:49:09 AM
here http://cid-daba652f90704104.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Pubblica/edid.bin (http://cid-daba652f90704104.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Pubblica/edid.bin)    ;D
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: gorila22 on February 12, 2010, 05:46:25 AM
its an issue with HDMI-DVI handshake....tv must be HDCP compliant, otherwise wd live "downscale" the image to 480p. i have the same issue when i link through my amp (denon 1610). when i do direct wdlive to tv via hdmi-dvi cable resolution is ok.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on February 12, 2010, 07:12:45 AM
My display is HDCP compliant.  1st gen wdtv had no problem with the handshake.  My blu-ray player (hdmi 1.3), my hd-dvd player all pass 720p/1080p fine.  Its a problem western digital have to fix. 
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: gogetas on February 12, 2010, 07:38:32 AM
My display is HDCP compliant too
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: FALK on February 12, 2010, 11:19:26 AM
I am pretty sure it is because the wd tv live only wants to display the highest common resolution between the tv format 480p,720p,1080p and the ones reported by the display EDID. On 16:10 displays that is usually 480p.

Tested it with a hp lp2465 24" 1920x1200 16:10 and a Samsung xl2370 1920x1080 16:9 display using same hdmi->dmi-adapter.
The hp resulted in a 480p output and the samsung in 1080p without a hitch.

I guess the old wd tv did not fall back to 480p when it failed to match with display, but instead used the resolution set in options.
So if the wd tv live would just enforce the choosen resolution in options I think it would work. Another better option would be to also support 16:10 resolutions instead of only 16:9.

Edit: hp edid: http://peecee.dk/upload/download/224816 (http://peecee.dk/upload/download/224816)
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: GuyWD on February 12, 2010, 02:18:28 PM
here http://cid-daba652f90704104.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Pubblica/edid.bin (http://cid-daba652f90704104.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Pubblica/edid.bin)    ;D

Thanks. I've sent it over to the dev team.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: gogetas on February 12, 2010, 05:51:10 PM
here http://cid-daba652f90704104.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Pubblica/edid.bin (http://cid-daba652f90704104.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Pubblica/edid.bin)    ;D

Thanks. I've sent it over to the dev team.

Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on February 13, 2010, 11:13:42 AM
If this really is being investigated i can get an EDID-dump from both a PC and the WDTV when i visit my parents to pick up the device but it will take a few weeks as i'm off for a 3+ week vacation to Thailand before i can visit them.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on February 15, 2010, 11:17:49 AM
GuyWD here is my edid.  What can you make of it?
http://rapidshare.com/files/351049165/edid.bin.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/351049165/edid.bin.html)
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: GuyWD on February 16, 2010, 05:30:43 PM
GuyWD here is my edid.  What can you make of it?
http://rapidshare.com/files/351049165/edid.bin.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/351049165/edid.bin.html)

Thanks, I've added this to the bug report.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on February 16, 2010, 06:46:25 PM
GuyWD, do you want to see the edid of 1st gen wdtv?  Using the same connections, 1st gen wdtv outputs all resolutions correctly, whereas the Live version fails.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: wuzzduzz on February 20, 2010, 09:59:25 AM
crap - same problem....:/ (wd live on nec lcd4000 :/ )

wdlive - hdmi - onky506 - hdmi->dvi - TV doesnt fix the problem...

do we can manually fix the resolution, so the wd live doesnt need a handshake?


sorry for bad english
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: GuyWD on February 20, 2010, 08:08:12 PM
GuyWD, do you want to see the edid of 1st gen wdtv?  Using the same connections, 1st gen wdtv outputs all resolutions correctly, whereas the Live version fails.

No need. The EDID is from the TV/monitor, not the WDTV itself. It tells us what resolutions and refresh rates your display supports, so that we can figure out what's going wrong in the HDMI handshaking process.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: FALK on February 21, 2010, 09:36:44 AM
No need. The EDID is from the TV/monitor, not the WDTV itself. It tells us what resolutions and refresh rates your display supports, so that we can figure out what's going wrong in the HDMI handshaking process.

Response from dmaosd with 1920x1200 16:10 monitor connected with a hdmi->dvi converter:
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[hdmi_loop.c:352] [HDMI] EDID with 1 blocks parsed, supporting:
       DVI, RGB only, 24 bit color, no 3D.
       DTD 1920x1200p59.95 519:324 - Preferred <-- Only supported resolution reported by EDID

  HH  HH  HHHHH   HH   HH  HHHH      HHHH   HH   HH
  HH  HH  HH  HH  HHH HHH   HH      HH  HH  HHH  HH
  HHHHHH  HH  HH  HH H HH   HH      HH  HH  HH H HH
  HH  HH  HH  HH  HH   HH   HH      HH  HH  HH  HHH
  HH  HH  HHHHH   HH   HH  HHHH      HHHH   HH   HH

Display is DVI
[hdmi_edid.c:913]   [EDID VIDEO MODE SELECTION]  Matching 1920x1080i59, 16:9
[hdmi_edid.c:526] [HDMI] EDID: matching mode with v=60/1.001, w=1920, h=1080, i=1, x=16, y=9 <-- Trying to match EDID with 1920x1080
[hdmi_edid.c:312] Failed to get TVStandard from DTD, and use of TVFormat was not permitted! <-- No match found and not TVFormats reported
  No best mode, using VIC 3 (720x480p 59.94/60Hz (4:3)), HDMI_480p59, 4:3 <-- Fall back to 480p
As said before, I think the problem is the wd tv live matches against the highest common TVFormat resolution found in the EDID,
which on 16:10 displays fail or when EDID is not reported, is VIC 3 (720x480p 59.94/60Hz (4:3)). See above with comments.

When connected with the same cable to a 16:9 monitor it outputs 1080i/p correctly.

Could you somehow force the unit to output a, in settings, choosen resolution and let the display to try scale? I think the old
unit behaved this way, but I am not sure as I do not have it.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: bod on March 02, 2010, 10:42:08 AM
No - tried it.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: FALK on March 10, 2010, 01:38:50 PM
Bought a dell 16:9 monitor: 1080p works perfectly. Will post log later.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: Hobster on March 11, 2010, 08:29:43 AM
Luckily I HAVE FOUND a fix for me to the problem of being stuck to 480p.  It might not fit you though but this is something you might want to check.  I was fiddling with my TV's video settings (5 ayer old LCD Sharp AQUOS 32") .  Interestingly there was a lot of options for the "PC" connector (DVI in reality).  It was originally set to "PC digital" which caused to default to 480p.  But I could also configure it to "AV Digital" and "AV Analog".  Setting it to "AV Digital" I could set the TV up to 1080i !!! (1080P is not supportd by the TV).  The image quality is just great now.

 
So if you are as as desperate as I was, go through all your TV's config options before throwing the towel.

Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on March 25, 2010, 07:42:28 AM
any updates about possible fix? 
GuyWD have you heard anything?
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: gogetas on March 27, 2010, 05:34:32 AM
I tried fw prerelease 1.02.19, no changes  :-\
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: enko2974 on March 28, 2010, 11:33:13 PM
the same problem here stuck at 720X480 resolution,whatever i do no change is stuck.I have wdtv live and hp monitor with 1920x1200 resolution,i'm using HDMI to DVI cable,when i was using DVI to DVI from my computer the resolution was changing.
Please help to fix this problem or i buy wdtv live for nothing.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on March 31, 2010, 09:24:44 PM
New Release 1.02.21 firmware does NOT fix the problem!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: gogetas on April 09, 2010, 03:40:18 AM
New Release 1.02.21 firmware does NOT fix the problem!!!!!!!!!

Me too  >:(
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: stromrickard on April 17, 2010, 06:52:21 AM
Sorry for the delay in posting the EDID earlier mentioned.

Here is what the EDID looks like in the TV (i copied edid.bin from the USB-drive and opened it in moninfo) and as earlier stated the EDID supports both 1280x720@50Hz and 1280x720@60Hz:
Monitor
  Model name............... DENON-AVAMP
  Manufacturer............. Denon
  Plug and Play ID......... DON0016
  Serial number............ n/a
  Manufacture date......... 2009, ISO week 0
  -------------------------
  EDID revision............ 1.3
  Input signal type........ Digital
  Color bit depth.......... Undefined
  Display type............. RGB color
  Screen size.............. 880 x 490 mm (39,7 in)
  Power management......... Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep
  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)
  -------------------------
  DDC/CI................... n/a

Color characteristics
  Default color space...... Non-sRGB
  Display gamma............ 2,07
  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0,625 - Ry 0,340
  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0,280 - Gy 0,595
  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0,150 - By 0,063
  White point (default).... Wx 0,270 - Wy 0,270
  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics
  Range limits............. Not available
  GTF standard............. Not supported
  Additional descriptors... None
  Preferred timing......... Yes
  Native/preferred timing.. 1366x768p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1366x768" 162,000 1366 1430 1622 2160 768 769 772 1250 +hsync +vsync
 Detailed timing #1....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1280x720" 61,900 1280 1336 1472 1664 720 721 726 744 -hsync +vsync

  Detailed timing #2....... 1024x768p at 60Hz (16:9)
    Modeline............... "1024x768" 65,000 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported
     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA
     640 x  480p at  67Hz - Apple Mac II
     640 x  480p at  72Hz - VESA
     640 x  480p at  75Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  56Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  72Hz - VESA
     800 x  600p at  75Hz - VESA
     832 x  624p at  75Hz - Apple Mac II
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  70Hz - VESA
    1024 x  768p at  75Hz - VESA
     640 x  480p at  60Hz - VESA STD
     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA STD
   1280 x  720p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD
    1600 x 1200p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information
  Revision number.......... 3
  DTV underscan............ Not supported
  Basic audio.............. Supported
  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Not supported
  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Not supported
  Native formats........... 0

CE audio data (formats supported)
  LPCM    8-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  DTS     6-channel, 1536k max. bit rate at 44/48/88/96 kHz
  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz
  DTS-HD  8-channel, 16-bit              at 44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  DD+     8-channel                      at 44/48 kHz
  DVD-A   6-channel                      at 44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz
  DVD-A   8-channel                      at 44/48/88/96 kHz

CE speaker allocation data
  Channel configuration.... 7.1
  Front left/right......... Yes
  Front LFE................ Yes
  Front center............. Yes
  Rear left/right.......... Yes
  Rear center.............. Yes
  Front left/right center.. No
  Rear left/right center... Yes
  Rear LFE................. No

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)
  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03
  CEC physical address..... 0.3.0.0
  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes
  Supports 48bpp........... No
  Supports 36bpp........... No
  Supports 30bpp........... No
  Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... No
  Supports dual-link DVI... No
  Maximum TMDS clock....... 165MHz

Report information
  Date generated........... 2010-04-17
  Software revision........ 2.30.0.797
  Operating system......... 6.1.7600.2

Raw data
  00,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,FF,00,11,EE,16,00,01,01,01,01,00,13,01,03,80,58,31,6B,EA,0D,90,A0,57,47,98,26,
  10,45,45,BF,EE,00,31,40,45,40,61,40,81,C0,81,80,A9,40,01,01,01,01,48,3F,56,1A,53,00,E2,31,40,C0,
  13,00,B9,88,21,00,00,1E,2E,18,00,80,51,D0,18,20,38,88,15,00,B9,88,21,00,00,1C,64,19,00,40,41,00,
  26,30,18,88,36,00,B9,88,21,00,00,1C,00,00,00,FC,00,44,45,4E,4F,4E,2D,41,56,41,4D,50,0A,20,01,8B,
  02,03,25,40,35,0F,7F,07,3D,1E,C0,15,07,50,5F,7E,01,57,06,00,65,7E,00,67,1E,00,83,5F,00,00,66,03,
  0C,00,30,00,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,
  00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,9B

Edit: Highlighted relevant parts of supported resolutions.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on April 17, 2010, 11:42:47 AM
This issue has been brought up by users like us for the longest time and has yet to be addressed by WD.  I love this little device, this is the only issue that I need fixed.  I'm surprised how much info we've provided WD and yet they don't care to fix this problem.  If you guys can get a hold of 1st gen wdtv, get it, it doesn't have this bug at all. 
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: silvereyes on May 03, 2010, 05:59:37 AM
maybe hope
There is discussion of this topic here:
http://forum.wdlxtv.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=311
This is the modified fw forum. 
I suggest you voice your problem there, since WD will never address this problem.
That might be our only hope.
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: thespecialist on May 12, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
Success ! Got it working now. Damn, this should have been a no-brainer but has costed me WAY more time than I had planned.

How to use: Boot from USB using the EXT3 from b-rad: http://forum.wdlxtv.com/viewforum.php?f=10, unzip this file: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DNBSADAP , ftp to your WDTVLive and overwrite the original file in /lib. After you've overwritten it, it should reboot automatically and you'll be on 720p. Alternatively, you could add this to a FW image, so you can just flash it to the internal flash (and dont need USB anymore).

Tested it on my own DVI-D connector, works like a charm.

I suggest you voice your problem there, since WD will never address this problem.
That might be our only hope.

At your service,

TS
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: bod on May 14, 2010, 08:31:59 AM
Success ! Got it working now. Damn, this should have been a no-brainer but has costed me WAY more time than I had planned.

How to use: Boot from USB using the EXT3 from b-rad: http://forum.wdlxtv.com/viewforum.php?f=10, unzip this file: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DNBSADAP , ftp to your WDTVLive and overwrite the original file in /lib. After you've overwritten it, it should reboot automatically and you'll be on 720p. Alternatively, you could add this to a FW image, so you can just flash it to the internal flash (and dont need USB anymore).

Tested it on my own DVI-D connector, works like a charm.

I suggest you voice your problem there, since WD will never address this problem.
That might be our only hope.

At your service,

TS


Does this mean we can get it to output 1080 as well?
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: thespecialist on May 14, 2010, 04:12:31 PM
Sure, it's explained in this topic: http://forum.wdlxtv.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=311
Title: Re: BUG v1.01.11 - HDMI->DVI stuck on 480p
Post by: RedRock on February 28, 2011, 05:45:40 PM
My WDTV Gen 2 is stuck on 480p as well - is there any solution to this??
The WDTV Live forces the unit to 1920 x 480.
The WDTV Live Hub forces the unit to 1920 x 1080, so obviously there is a solution. The PS3 forces the image to 1920 x 1080 too.
When is Western Digial ever going to fix this???