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Title: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: jayallan on November 16, 2009, 05:21:40 PM
Here is a general thread for discussing changes and your experiences with the first new firmware update to the LIVE.

Let us know your likes/dislikes!

Jay
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: jayallan on November 16, 2009, 05:22:54 PM
The thread with the link to new firmware is here: 

http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2884.0 (http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2884.0)

:)
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: digitallifedad on November 16, 2009, 06:06:11 PM
Audio/Video Sync issue !!

Just updated to v1.01.11

Now all video from Revision3 - http://revision3.com (http://revision3.com) in 30fps HD ( .MP4 ) file format does not play properly.

The audio/video are out of sync. They video appears to be playing at 2-4X speed, while the audio is at normal speed ( sounds normal ).

There were zero issues with this video prior to the latest update.
I've reset to factory settings also.

Anyone else having video issues with specific formats since updating ??

Also, does anyone know the best place to officially report these problems to WD directly?

Cheers
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: Joes on November 16, 2009, 06:56:29 PM
I am trying to update the firmware but the auto 'Update Device' feature does not find any updates.
Is there a way to manually update the firmware?

Thanks

Joes
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: synaptic on November 16, 2009, 07:20:50 PM
Networking still doesn't seem to be fixed.  :(
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaseDavis on November 16, 2009, 08:21:59 PM
Manual Install - http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2887.0 (http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2887.0)

Duplicate thumbnail issue still there, I know this is purely cosmetic but as far as I'm concerned, things like Menu Support and Thumbnails and organization are the reasons I bought the player.  I like being able to easily browse my movie collection and add to it without 2 hours of converting, transferring, etc.

I'm hopefully the NEXT update will have this corrected
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: Joes on November 16, 2009, 08:36:53 PM
4. Select the firmware upgrade icon, and then press ENTER.

Okay, I found it. You have to turn the unit off and on again to make the icon appear.

Joes
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: mobilenet on November 16, 2009, 10:12:31 PM
I was looking forward to the update to fix this. It has got to be the top priority surely! It's not good enough at all IMO. I can see the Live on my XP machines consistently so WHY don't the damn XP shares show consistently on the Live?

Networking still doesn't seem to be fixed.  :(
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: oRBIT2002 on November 16, 2009, 10:26:23 PM

Duplicate thumbnail issue still there, I know this is purely cosmetic but as far as I'm concerned, things like Menu Support and Thumbnails and organization are the reasons I bought the player.  I like being able to easily browse my movie collection and add to it without 2 hours of converting, transferring, etc.


I was hoping this issue would be fixed by now.. :(
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: wiiBox on November 17, 2009, 12:16:39 AM
Yes, the only significant change so far is the fade in/out toggle (very welcomed change).  The rest is bussiness as usual.  If you are expecting major updates in the future... maybe it's time to think again!!  lol

Had a little bit of a scare at first after the update (usb based).  The few .mkv files I have showed a small audio sync problem, but they were solved after I reset the player with the reset button on the side.  First time I ever saw this with either the wdtv1 or 2.

The one .mp4 file I have problems with still doesn't work correctly, but now it's a massive audio sync issue when you skip ahead.  Watching it from the start seems to be okay, but I'll have to watch the entire movie to see if it maintains sync all the way through.  On the possitive side, the subs inside work, now.  Details of the original problem here:  http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2561.0 (http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2561.0)

Colour decoding is still an issue as discribed here:  http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=683.0 (http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=683.0)
But to be honest, I don't see the problem in my content besides those test clips.  Could be just me, though.

On the networking side, things are pretty much the same.  My informal test shows 7.6MB (tops) transfer rate from my winxp sp2 machine to a 2.5" 20 gig drive (5400rpm, samsung) connected to the wdtv live.  I should test my other portable 3.5" 7200rpm drive.  That may have better results, but 7.6MB is the same I was getting before.  Network is wired.

Network shares are still not searchable.  My reboot problem seemed solved until I reset the player to fix the audio sync issue.  Details of reboot problem here:  http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2816.0 (http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2816.0)  I can easily overlook this, though.

Pretty much what I expected, but I'm a bit disappointed at the same time.  On the bright side, no new bugs for me, so far.  lol  Sad, I know.

I would be interested to hear from someone who has tested usb hubs.  Are they working now?

@mobilenet
All the xp machines we have here show up without a problem.  You need to dig deeper into your setup, I presume.  We have sp3 and sp2 machines, even a Vista machine before it was upgraded to win7 and they all show up.  We don't stream from them, but they show up.

I wonder if they added NFS, but I doubt it.  Will see about testing that with our one Linux machine.

That's my experience!

Cheers!    :D
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: fits79 on November 17, 2009, 04:55:55 AM
Hi.
How i can see the display resolution of each video file? I see that this add-on it exist on the new firmware 1.01.11 but i don't know how i can see the display resolution.

A lot of thanks.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: swartz on November 17, 2009, 02:51:52 PM
Utter CRAP.

I'm returning my two WDTV Live boxes back to the store.

Still issues with media servers and SMB shares.

Not only that but this firmware now disables the way to achieve 1080p over COMPONENT as I described here:
http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2513.0 (http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?topic=2513.0)

Not only Western Digital did NOT fix my HDMI issue, but they also totally locked me out of 1080p.
Very NOT cool in my book.

I will never buy another Western Digital product and will strongly advise others to do the same.

Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: timw on November 17, 2009, 03:34:03 PM
Is it possible to downgrade? I got my WDTV yesterday, then spent all day today working out what format video it likes (I'm using an elgato turbo hd stick and it doesn't seem to play nicely with the WDTV - most settings get the "judders"). I finally found a setting which worked and converted about 20 files but now all but one have the video playing twice as fast as the audio, thereby rendering the WDTV useless. :(

Of course, given the grief I've had to get this far, I don't think any encoding setting on the Turbo is safe from getting broken with the next update  :(
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: markusmo on November 17, 2009, 06:28:14 PM
hi ,

still no usb hub function ....
the wd live is somehow loading all ext hdd that are attached on the usb hub , so all led lights are flashing on the mybooks , but then
if you choose the usb local drives it freezes up in a blank screen and only getting the power cord out helps ....
anybody any luck at all with more than two hdd as local drives over usb port ?

thanks

markus
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: mobilenet on November 17, 2009, 06:46:33 PM
Glad it's working consistently for you. In my case (Maxtor Shared Storage II NAS, WG634U router (which in theory can act as a NAS too but isn't much good) and 3 netbooks running Windows XP SP3, (over Wireless) the 2 NAS's seem to be generally available but the XP machines are regularly not visible on the Live, despite the Live being accessable from the XP machines. It seems to be quite random. Sometimes all 3 XP machines can be seen, sometimes none, one or 2. I've tried a few things to help the situation but no luck so far.

Interested to hear if anyone else having problems with XP happens to have other servers aswell.

@mobilenet
All the xp machines we have here show up without a problem.  You need to dig deeper into your setup, I presume.  We have sp3 and sp2 machines, even a Vista machine before it was upgraded to win7 and they all show up.  We don't stream from them, but they show up.

I wonder if they added NFS, but I doubt it.  Will see about testing that with our one Linux machine.

That's my experience!

Cheers!    :D
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Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: cbscpe on November 17, 2009, 08:32:59 PM
I'm very disappointed by this upgrade, although the upgrade process worked very nicely, copied the files to a USB drive, plugged in the drive and the WDTV immediately provided me the option to upgrade, what I did of course, however

duplicate thumbnails still here, for a bug that is reported so many times and I think not only here in the forum but many users certainly have sent a mail to the WD Support this should have been fixed, especially as this was never an issue with the original WDTV box. It makes browsing through your video collections unusable, especially for all users I have here

buffering of movies over SMB still is poor and high peak-rates brings artefacts and audio sync problems etc,

movies converted with Turbo.264 HD still don't work, so it seems implementation of h.264 decoding is still buggy (not saying the Turbo.264 HD Software has no issues, but at least the movies play on the original WDTV without any flaws
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: wiiBox on November 17, 2009, 09:56:10 PM
buffering of movies over SMB still is poor and high peak-rates brings artefacts and audio sync problems etc,

movies converted with Turbo.264 HD still don't work, so it seems implementation of h.264 decoding is still buggy (not saying the Turbo.264 HD Software has no issues, but at least the movies play on the original WDTV without any flaws
Are we talking streaming BD rips here?  I've never tested those, don't have any!  But your h.264 statement seems strange to me because I've been playing them for 6 hours (6x1hour eps) lately and they have been flawless.  The problem I have is with .mp4 container videos.  Otherwise, demuxing and repackaging the same movie into an mkv will play like any other h264 video in an mkv.

So to say that the box has problems with h.264 outright may be a non sequitur.

I agree with your thumbnail problem and I have a niggling issue related to them, too.  The contrast on thumbnails seems to change when you start to browse them.  A bit annoying!

Do you have a thread explaining your streaming problems?  I'm curious.  Network streaming has never ever dropped while watching anything I have.  But then again, I don't have the most demanding media.

TIA
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: liveuser on November 17, 2009, 11:21:38 PM
The network shares flakyness issue still not fixed or even mentioned is inexcusable.

What about no 5.1 sound for HD mkv files? Right now have to switch to stereo to have sound.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: swartz on November 17, 2009, 11:52:28 PM
I can confirm streaming problems with 1080p content over GigE .
Flaky shares (SMB/CIFS) which either don't show up or say have no media available.
Flaky media server support ( I have FreeNAS with uPNP service enabled and DNLA profile selected), some files don't show up (mainly mkv for some reason, all avi show tho) or media shares are not accessible/visible.

I've had it with this box...
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: timw on November 18, 2009, 03:28:17 AM
Anyone else had their WDTV disappear off the network after this update? I share the drives connected to the WDTV out across the network and it has all been working very well until I restarted after the firmware update. Now it seems to have disappeared. I'm using a Mac so presumably it is not advertising the shared drive correctly/or it has changed subtly in a way which breaks Macs.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: pipe on November 18, 2009, 04:47:15 AM
Hello everyone. then just update the wd live and I have many problems, has not given any finding or anything when I loaded the new firm, but now the 3 trailers that had previously played them right now they are playing, just play one of them, all three are equal, same resolution, same fps, I set the fps of the wd live but nothing, stays as locked, both from pendrive as from external hd seems to be executed but not the videos play, leaving the bar down time and what is playing but does nothing, I give the play and after a while it changes the icon to pause and give it back to not play anything, if I go to the menu will slow down all the menus. What do I do? Could return to the previous firmware? I have downloaded the firmware first main post, I guess I'll have to edit the file and put a wdtvlive.ver to load this, is not it?. Oh another thing, if I give the trailer if you catch me and then one that grabs me and not play anything, no video avi or mpg that has any quality, I have to live off the wd and then again in the time to run those two trailers were relock. 23.976 fps are all three. I hope you can help me. If it works by loading the firmware and run again first trailers, wait until you go back further updates before upgrading.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: Headcase_Fargone on November 18, 2009, 07:41:03 AM
Biggest disappointment for me (aside from the thumbnail thing) is that I still can't play my .MP4s.  They're unwatchable with the audio hitching that occurs every 30-60 seconds.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: cbscpe on November 18, 2009, 02:40:08 PM
My problems with streaming are that movies with high peak-rates, I talk about movies with average rate of 25-30Mbps and peak-reates up to 50Mbps have problems typically seen when you play movies without sufficient ahead buffering, like in the internet. This are pure BD RIPs without converting, so to say with the original bit-rate.

Movies with lower bit-rates and especially movies that do not have high peak-rates play perfect. I did not say I expected that BD Rips play without problems, but seeing this issue that is the dropouts I see are likely caused by insufficient ahead buffering. I also think this is the case because playing a movie is almost instantly. I would expect some seconds of delay before playing.

To verify this I will setup a UPnP Server as streaming does not suffer from small buffers like SMB does

The h.264 issue is that movies independant of the container but converted by Turbo.264 HD stutter (mp4 and mkv). Other movies I have downloaded or converted with other tools don't show these issues.

I will investigate more here as well, I'll convert a DVD with different tools and encapsulate it to different containers and then compare the result.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: HeadHodge on November 18, 2009, 03:56:24 PM
My problems with streaming are that movies with high peak-rates, I talk about movies with average rate of 25-30Mbps and peak-reates up to 50Mbps have problems typically seen when you play movies without sufficient ahead buffering, like in the internet. This are pure BD RIPs without converting, so to say with the original bit-rate.

Are you using SMB or NFS?

Is there a way to use NFS without a hack? I've found with other media players that using NFS makes a big difference with Bluray streams.

I really want to buy a WDTV Live, because I've read it uses the latest and fastest Sigma chipset available. But I'm reluctant to, if I have to watch my Bluray rips from my NAS with stuttering because of network issues
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: laserjet on November 19, 2009, 12:22:15 AM
I was looking forward to the update to fix this. It has got to be the top priority surely! It's not good enough at all IMO. I can see the Live on my XP machines consistently so WHY don't the damn XP shares show consistently on the Live?

Networking still doesn't seem to be fixed.  :(

I have had similar problems with mine. I have 2 XP sp3 machines with shares that i could browse remotely from each other. However, the only thing that showed on the WD TV live was my NAS. So I did a little of troubleshooting and figured that i had "messenger" service disabled on both of the machines (note this is not a windows/live messenger, it just networking service that for some kind of network messages - like alarms etc). After enabling this service, i could instantly see both my PCs on the WD TV Live. It has been working ever since without any issues (except high bit-rate files wont play). You can activate this widows service under "control panel" --> "administrative tools" --> "services" --> "Messenger"

Let us know if it helped.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: jayallan on November 19, 2009, 12:58:58 AM
There are a lot of people in this thread with problems.  I recommend that is you are having problems with the update that are shared with others, that you start a thread in the BUG area I just set up dedicated to the Live.  Be as specific as possible.  This is just the first update of what I assume will be many.  That is the nature of these products.  As networking is more complex, with more variables, and is new to the Live, this is where most problems will occur. 

cbscpe: your post is great because you give a lot of info and describe the problem. 

liveuser: there is not enough info .  All my MKVs play 5.1 audio just fine.  And "network shares flakyness issue" is ambiguous.  We have no idea what your issue really is. 

Be specific and give tech details.  Threads in the BUG area that are well composed and give highly detailed information are the ones that are going to be addressed.

Just trying to help out. :)
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: kolikok on November 19, 2009, 12:41:08 PM
Does anyone have access to the old firmware that B-rad posted?

He gave a rapidshare link, but I always seem to end up at the site when no free downloads are given. I really need to downgrade. (it's the out of sync audio/video with mp4 that kills it for me. Already described above.)

Edit: I finally got it, and I've uploaded it here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2205332/WDTVLIVE_FW_1.01.00.zip (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2205332/WDTVLIVE_FW_1.01.00.zip)
Easier than rapidshare which seems to be busy most of the time.

Downgrading solved it for me. Now all the mp4 files play as before. phew!
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: eucyblues on November 19, 2009, 11:10:16 PM
I was a bit iffy about upgrading - often doesn't pay to be an early adopter in these cases BUT couldn't resist in the end - just completed painlessly from a USB stick and WHAT DO YOU KNOW!! all my previously hidden network shares on XP have shown up, together with all shared folders on an old P4 which just happened to be on the network at the time

Good start eh! - hope it continues to be positive
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: eucyblues on November 20, 2009, 03:12:34 AM
Trying the new firmware out tonight - Noticed something odd/different with VOB files

Shared a DVD drive and tried playing a DVD through network shares/folders - worked fine (it refused to find the DVD share on the original firmware) but I noticed that it didn't matter which VOB file I selected it always played the main movie - it also did this with some stored on the hard drive under Video_TS folders, but in some other cases, the individual files were playable - weird.... (and a few wouldn't play at all..??)

Also on the original firmware, playing a sequence of VOBs was interrupted at the beginning of each with the info bar - now its seamless - great!

And as the unit remembers stop points even after being turned off, chapters aren't so important, so playing VOB's seamlessly is a useful method of replay without transcoding
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: fits79 on November 20, 2009, 05:18:16 AM
The wd tv live at the dts-hd do a downsample to stereo but it doens't to truehd why is that?
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: dingrwdtvfr on November 20, 2009, 07:08:39 PM
Startup delay issues with new firmware
----------------------------------------------

I have found a very annoying problem with the new firmware version 1.01.11 in terms of startup time.

My setup:

WD TV Live with 1.01.11 firmware + Linksys WUSB600N wifi adaptor + attached USB storage.

With the original 1.01.00 firmware, the WD TV Live starts up and, within seconds, establishes a wireless connection and mounts the USB storage device.

With the new 1.01.11 version, after powering up, it does not even start to address the wireless device for a little over a minute. And only when the wireless connection is established does it start to mount the attached USB storage device. Total time it takes is about 80 to 90 seconds. Even without the wireless adaptor connected, the WD TV Live does not begin to mount the USB storage until about 60 seconds after power-up. So this is not a wireless adaptor or network issue.

I have been switching back and forth from the original firmware and the new firmware to verify my findings. In the end, I decided to stick with the original firmware and leave the device powered all the time. This way, the attached storage device is network-accessible all the time.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: wiiBox on November 20, 2009, 07:57:51 PM
Try pressing the reset button on the side of the box.  I did it while the unit was turned on.  Don't know if it has the same effect on standby.

Follow the manual's instructions on this.  Press only for a second or two.

This has helped fix issues in the past.  Give it a try, it can't hurt.  Remember you will lose all settings.

Good luck!
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: dingrwdtvfr on November 21, 2009, 10:01:08 AM
Try pressing the reset button on the side of the box. 

Already did that many times. No difference to the startup time. Not a major problem since I now leave the device on all the time to help advance global warming. :)
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: sadako on November 21, 2009, 10:57:07 AM
I really can't understand how the double thumbnail issue persists after this firmware update.

It can't be a feature: if images are shown in video mode by design, why offer the selection of video/music/images in the first place? And why does this issue only affect network shares, and not files played locally (i.e. via USB)?

Surely WD are aware of this? Baffling omission from 1.01.11, imo... I hope this isn't a sign of things to come from the update department.  :(
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: opentoe on November 21, 2009, 08:46:47 PM
I really can't understand how the double thumbnail issue persists after this firmware update.

It can't be a feature: if images are shown in video mode by design, why offer the selection of video/music/images in the first place? And why does this issue only affect network shares, and not files played locally (i.e. via USB)?

Surely WD are aware of this? Baffling omission from 1.01.11, imo... I hope this isn't a sign of things to come from the update department.  :(

They need to put any graphical/cosmetic issues aside and work on networking problems first. I'm sure we all would want a great player that did it's basic functions well.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: sadako on November 22, 2009, 10:26:04 AM
I really can't understand how the double thumbnail issue persists after this firmware update.

It can't be a feature: if images are shown in video mode by design, why offer the selection of video/music/images in the first place? And why does this issue only affect network shares, and not files played locally (i.e. via USB)?

Surely WD are aware of this? Baffling omission from 1.01.11, imo... I hope this isn't a sign of things to come from the update department.  :(

They need to put any graphical/cosmetic issues aside and work on networking problems first. I'm sure we all would want a great player that did it's basic functions well.

I agree that there are more pressing issues for the WDTV team to fix, but in what was a largely cosmetic update (renaming menu items, etc), the thumbnail problem does seem a strange one to have overlooked.
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: Takuru on November 22, 2009, 11:56:27 AM
Hello everyone, This update has caused more problems than it solves.  :-\

Try to play this file in your WDTV With the latest update (with the original version works normally). It causes a buffer overflow and slows the WDTV Live.

*Prepare to implement reset and disconnecting the power.

http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/brightcove/us/moviefone/trailers/2009/avatar_026982/avatar_trlr_02_1080p_dl.mov (http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/brightcove/us/moviefone/trailers/2009/avatar_026982/avatar_trlr_02_1080p_dl.mov)

Other similar trailers have the same problem.

 :'(
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: wiiBox on November 22, 2009, 02:57:27 PM
Hi Takuru,

Consider posting this in the bugs section (http://wdtvforum.com/main/index.php?board=16.0).  Maybe under the heading of mov file problem, or something similar.

I tried the file and it indeed didn't play and UI became sluggish; had to power cycle.  I put the movie in an mkv and it played just like any other mkv has.

Good find, and worth posting in the bugs section with the sample; remember to mention the firmware version in the subject line.

Cheers!   :)

Interesting looking movie, BTW!
Title: Re: New WDTV LIVE Software Update 1.01.11 >>> Discussion Thread
Post by: yamatosoul on November 30, 2009, 09:01:35 AM
People come these forums to resolve issues, so, it's normal to have complaints about the new firmware upgrade.  But the impression I get about the latest update for WDTV Live is that I would be a whole lot better off if I stuck with the original firmware for now.  Does anyone have any positive experiences with the update or should I wait for the next update?  I would appreciate your inputs because that damned "You have an update" message pops up every time I turn on my WDTV, and I almost update it by accident yesterday.